Listen now to KPFA.org, 94.1FM. This show was aired on July 17, 2017 

https://kpfa.org/player/?audio=264251

Dr. Vanessa Grubbs and Robert Phillips talked with us about kidney disease, dialysis, the long wait for transplants, and inequities in care. In Dr. Grubbs new book, “Hundreds of Interlaced Fingers,” she describes her journey to donate a kidney to the man she fell in love with and then married (Robert).

 

 

 

 

Guests
Dr. Vanessa Grubbs, MD, is an associate professor of medicine and nephrology at the University of California, San Francisco, and maintains a clinical practice and research program at Zuckerberg San Francisco General Hospital. She also teaches writing for patient advocacy to medical students and practicing physicians.
Robert Phillips is the President and CEO of Social Interest Solutions, a non-profit organization dedicated to improving access to quality health and social services through technology and policy solutions. Robert is an accomplished executive with nearly 25 years of experience working in political campaigns, health policy, health systems, technology, philanthropy, and strategic consulting. He and Vanessa are married.